Victor J. Stenger

  Victor J. Stenger

“I would like to comment on the folly of faith. When faith rules over facts, magical thinking becomes deeply ingrained and warps all areas of life. It produces a frame of mind in which concepts are formulated with deep passion but without the slightest attention being paid to the evidence. Nowhere is this more evident than in the U.S. today, where Christians who seek to convert the nation into a theocracy dominate the Republican party. Blind faith is no way to run a world.”

Victor J. Stenger


  1. Tony says:

    I must be a naturalist like Stenger. I divide the empirical Universe into two parts I call The Law and The Game. When players in The Game pretend they are The Law, hilarity ensues.

  2. Henning Andersen says:

    I just watched Eddie Izzard at Google – mainly because I like the guy, but also because I like Googles various fora (and may I recommend Neal Stephenson’s visit to same, and Neil Gaiman’s). But Eddie – the multiple transvestite accomplicher of several marathons – summed some differences up in this way: – I want to find a nice spot, and I want to make other people find it, inviting them to participate, to join, to experience that – as a Democrat way of thinking. Republicans; – that’s rather: I’ve found a nice place, securing it for myself, and all others, go away, shoo, leave, trespassers will be shot, survivors will be executed.

  3. Tim says:

    For a moment I thought Stenger was referring to the anthropogenic global warming crowd. Instead it’s the same tired shibboleth about those darn Christians. Yup beware those Lutherans, Episcopalians and Congregationalist!

  4. PJ says:

    Tim, I think the first couple of sentences apply equally to climate-change-deniers, religious zealots, or any other group of fools who think their un-fact-based beliefs reflect reality.

  5. H. E. Parmer says:

    Yes, and thank God for those brave skeptics like Richard Muller, who paid attention to the evidence and showed the faith-based AGW crowd up for a bunch of hysterical Chicken Littles.

    Oh, wait …

    “Call me a converted skeptic. Three years ago I identified problems in previous climate studies that, in my mind, threw doubt on the very existence of global warming. Last year, following an intensive research effort involving a dozen scientists, I concluded that global warming was real and that the prior estimates of the rate of warming were correct. I’m now going a step further: Humans are almost entirely the cause.”

    Although it’s no surprise Tony may be unaware of these recent developments, since he’s apparently spent the last 30 years in another dimension. At least, that’s the only reasonable explanation I can come up with to explain both the AGW denialism and the “Christian Right? What Christian Right?” schtick rolled up into a single comment.

    Especially when we’ve just endured an 18-month election cycle where every single candidate for the Republican nomination fell all over themselves to court both the AGW denialists and pledge fealty to the Christian Right.

  6. jasonmitchell says:

    Tim –
    Stenger clearly limits the scope of his target to “Christrians who seek to convert the nation to a theocracy” i.e. authoritarian evangelical (fundamentalist) Christians – Lutherans and Episcopalians are far to “liberal” for the likes of the extremists withing the G.O.P. (my apologies my my irony meter isn’t working)

  7. H. E. Parmer says:

    Sorry, Tony: That comment should have been addressed to Tim. And no, I don’t think anyone’s irony meter is defective.

  8. Al says:

    Much as we hate to admit it, we all believe things that can’t be proven, whether religious or not.

  9. Scott says:

    True: blind faith is no way to run a world.

    But, adherence to a code of morality IS.