Comments on: Newton and Me http://www.thewaythefutureblogs.com/2010/09/newt-gingrich/ Frederik Pohl Mon, 20 May 2013 21:23:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Griff http://www.thewaythefutureblogs.com/2010/09/newt-gingrich/#comment-35107 Griff Thu, 30 Sep 2010 21:23:12 +0000 http://www.thewaythefutureblogs.com/?p=2726#comment-35107 @wolfwalker; "In WW2, you could take a guy off the street, put an M1 in his hand, ram him through six weeks of basic training, and have an effective soldier come out the other end. Today, you can’t do that anymore. The technology has gotten too advanced." My dad got about 3 months of training before going to north Africa in 1942-43. I got 16 wks, half of it wasted, before going to Vietnam in 68-69. From talking to AfPak grunts at the local VA, the technology isn't that hard. The IED's and snipers are hard. The technology of the infantry hasn't changed as much as we might think. You an still get vaporized by your own air support, and the equipment still breaks right when you need it. On Teabaggers, I have known these people all my life. they are not new, just now acceptable to a failed political party grasping at anything to stay in power. And they probably will. Yes, I have been (by accident) at one of their rallies downtown. A couple of my wife's co-workers are involved in the "movement". Actually they love big government, if it involves dropping bombs on brown people or jailing "illegals". Down here in NM they want troops on the border. To protect all those great roofing, field work, and motel cleaning jobs their kids want. And make sure the zygotes and embryos are safe, for God sakes! Small gov? Don't think so. If you took the xenophobes, religious nuts, creationists,etc., out of the movement, it would be a few corporate hacks with signs about socialism. Griff @wolfwalker;
“In WW2, you could take a guy off the street, put an M1 in his hand, ram him through six weeks of basic training, and have an effective soldier come out the other end. Today, you can’t do that anymore. The technology has gotten too advanced.”

My dad got about 3 months of training before going to north Africa in 1942-43. I got 16 wks, half of it wasted, before going to Vietnam in 68-69. From talking to AfPak grunts at the local VA, the technology isn’t that hard. The IED’s and snipers are hard. The technology of the infantry hasn’t changed as much as we might think. You an still get vaporized by your own air support, and the equipment still breaks right when you need it.

On Teabaggers,
I have known these people all my life. they are not new, just now acceptable to a failed political party grasping at anything to stay in power. And they probably will.
Yes, I have been (by accident) at one of their rallies downtown. A couple of my wife’s co-workers are involved in the “movement”. Actually they love big government, if it involves dropping bombs on brown people or jailing “illegals”. Down here in NM they want troops on the border. To protect all those great roofing, field work, and motel cleaning jobs their kids want. And make sure the zygotes and embryos are safe, for God sakes!
Small gov? Don’t think so. If you took the xenophobes, religious nuts, creationists,etc., out of the movement, it would be a few corporate hacks with signs about socialism.
Griff

]]> By: jasonmitchell http://www.thewaythefutureblogs.com/2010/09/newt-gingrich/#comment-34951 jasonmitchell Mon, 27 Sep 2010 21:06:01 +0000 http://www.thewaythefutureblogs.com/?p=2726#comment-34951 next we'll hear how the swift boat veterans for truth had no political adjenda and wasn't funded by prominant Republican Party Donors. It is my belief that many of the participants in Tea Party rallies DON'T KNOW who supplies the talking points/ $$. Also there is more than 1 group calling themselves some flavor of tea party - they are not monolithic in ther views - but they all seem to be anti-Obama, anti-Democrat and not "Pro" anything that hasn't been conservative/republican talking points of the past. next we’ll hear how the swift boat veterans for truth had no political adjenda and wasn’t funded by prominant Republican Party Donors.

It is my belief that many of the participants in Tea Party rallies DON’T KNOW who supplies the talking points/ $$. Also there is more than 1 group calling themselves some flavor of tea party – they are not monolithic in ther views – but they all seem to be anti-Obama, anti-Democrat and not “Pro” anything that hasn’t been conservative/republican talking points of the past.

]]> By: jasonmitchell http://www.thewaythefutureblogs.com/2010/09/newt-gingrich/#comment-34949 jasonmitchell Mon, 27 Sep 2010 20:31:16 +0000 http://www.thewaythefutureblogs.com/?p=2726#comment-34949 tea party "platform" "we don't like Barak Obama, liberals, health care reform, or taxes" they seem to be against a bunch of things - but I haven't seen anything they are "for" that is any different then any of the planks of the republican platform the funding is coming from the same places that republicans get thier money FOX news is sympathetic to the tea party, and Fox news talking heads cristisze many of the sae things that teabaggers critisize the only aknoweged "leaders" of the tea party- Sarah Palin and her ilk - are/were republicans if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck - it just might be a duck! tea party “platform”

“we don’t like Barak Obama, liberals, health care reform, or taxes”

they seem to be against a bunch of things – but I haven’t seen anything they are “for” that is any different then any of the planks of the republican platform

the funding is coming from the same places that republicans get thier money

FOX news is sympathetic to the tea party, and Fox news talking heads cristisze many of the sae things that teabaggers critisize

the only aknoweged “leaders” of the tea party- Sarah Palin and her ilk – are/were republicans

if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck – it just might be a duck!

]]> By: Rob Thornton http://www.thewaythefutureblogs.com/2010/09/newt-gingrich/#comment-34946 Rob Thornton Mon, 27 Sep 2010 19:59:49 +0000 http://www.thewaythefutureblogs.com/?p=2726#comment-34946 I live in Crystal City, Virginia. For now, it is a prime nexus for the military-industrial complex. It is also the site of many many hotels. When Glenn Beck held that rally, some of the Beck crowd were there and I helped a few of them find the Metro stop. In the process, we had a conversation and I made it clear that I didn't want to discuss politics. This opened the floodgates and we made polite chitchat about the Beck rally. As we parted, I looked at them and said "All I really want to tell you is this: before you accuse Obama of having a socialist-led government, know what a socialist actually is." The mother looked at me and said:"So tell me, what is a socialist?" I live in Crystal City, Virginia. For now, it is a prime nexus for the military-industrial complex. It is also the site of many many hotels. When Glenn Beck held that rally, some of the Beck crowd were there and I helped a few of them find the Metro stop.

In the process, we had a conversation and I made it clear that I didn’t want to discuss politics. This opened the floodgates and we made polite chitchat about the Beck rally. As we parted, I looked at them and said “All I really want to tell you is this: before you accuse Obama of having a socialist-led government, know what a socialist actually is.”

The mother looked at me and said:”So tell me, what is a socialist?”

]]> By: Lawrence http://www.thewaythefutureblogs.com/2010/09/newt-gingrich/#comment-34821 Lawrence Sat, 25 Sep 2010 18:36:11 +0000 http://www.thewaythefutureblogs.com/?p=2726#comment-34821 I am fascinated by the idea that genre fiction could shape or inform a political leader’s decision making. What other political leaders claim to be fans of science fiction? I am fascinated by the idea that genre fiction could shape or inform a political leader’s decision making. What other political leaders claim to be fans of science fiction?

]]> By: Jim Flanagan http://www.thewaythefutureblogs.com/2010/09/newt-gingrich/#comment-34782 Jim Flanagan Sat, 25 Sep 2010 03:01:47 +0000 http://www.thewaythefutureblogs.com/?p=2726#comment-34782 It is interesting to see the mental gyrations these haters go thru to rationalize their actions. They opposed the President from the day he was nominated, obviously not for anything he had done. They claim they oppose him for his policies but the last administration started much of what they opposed (budgets out of wack, hugh deficits, giveaways of our recources, federal intrusions into daily life). Yet, not a rally or complaint could be heard. Jim It is interesting to see the mental gyrations these haters go thru to rationalize their actions. They opposed the President from the day he was nominated, obviously not for anything he had done. They claim they oppose him for his policies but the last administration started much of what they opposed (budgets out of wack, hugh deficits, giveaways of our recources, federal intrusions into daily life). Yet, not a rally or complaint could be heard.

Jim

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