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	<title>Comments on: Astounding Years 30&#8211;37 BC:* Clayton Magazines</title>
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	<description>Frederik Pohl</description>
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		<title>By: Tinkoo</title>
		<link>http://www.thewaythefutureblogs.com/2009/11/astounding-years-3037-bc/#comment-12057</link>
		<dc:creator>Tinkoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 14:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All issues of &lt;i&gt;Astounding&lt;/i&gt; from Clayton era - January 1930 to March 1933 - are now online, in case anyone is interested in their fiction. Scans as JPEG files at Internet Archive for all issues; &#38; as still-coming text files at Project Gutenberg for some issues. I maintain a page of &lt;a href="http://variety-sf.blogspot.com/2008/10/toc-series-astounding-scans-1930-1933.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;links to these issues&lt;/a&gt;, sometimes with ToC opened up too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All issues of <i>Astounding</i> from Clayton era - January 1930 to March 1933 - are now online, in case anyone is interested in their fiction. Scans as JPEG files at Internet Archive for all issues; &amp; as still-coming text files at Project Gutenberg for some issues. I maintain a page of <a href="http://variety-sf.blogspot.com/2008/10/toc-series-astounding-scans-1930-1933.html" rel="nofollow">links to these issues</a>, sometimes with ToC opened up too.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Mason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Mason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 00:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What did you make of the Dolds' magazine MIRACLE SCIENCE AND FANTASY STORIES?</description>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
		<link>http://www.thewaythefutureblogs.com/2009/11/astounding-years-3037-bc/#comment-9617</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hoo-ray!  These histories should be incorporated into a "history of the business of writing" course to be required of all creative writing majors.</description>
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		<title>By: steve davidson</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve davidson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great subject Fred!  Interestingly enough, I happen to be re-reading Alva Roger's Requiem for Astounding (Advent, 1964) which includes introductions from Bates, Tremaine and Campbell.

In the first intro by Bates, Harry states that he had originally thought that it was he alone who suggested the Astounding title to Clayton, but that in preparing his piece for the book he became aware that both Douglas Dold and Harold Hersey also make similar claims.  Harry settles on allowing everyone a share of the credit.

He also states that the covers for the Clayton magazines were printed four by four, leaving three blank spaces on the proof, not just one: "Now, there were blank spaces on this sheet. The proofs occupied places arranged in four rows of four columns each, only thirteen of the sixteen places being filled. This meant that month after month three of the sixteen places would stare empty at Clayton..."

Of course my information comes second-hand, while yours is first hand, and I suspect that your next parts will go into your own editorial career which I am more interested in learning about than I am Bates' or Campbell's (we've heard plenty about both over the years).  The man responsible for bringing us Cordwainer Smith deserves at least a little mention, right?

Besides, I own every single one of the first issues of the magazines you edited which number far more than a single title...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great subject Fred!  Interestingly enough, I happen to be re-reading Alva Roger&#8217;s Requiem for Astounding (Advent, 1964) which includes introductions from Bates, Tremaine and Campbell.</p>
<p>In the first intro by Bates, Harry states that he had originally thought that it was he alone who suggested the Astounding title to Clayton, but that in preparing his piece for the book he became aware that both Douglas Dold and Harold Hersey also make similar claims.  Harry settles on allowing everyone a share of the credit.</p>
<p>He also states that the covers for the Clayton magazines were printed four by four, leaving three blank spaces on the proof, not just one: &#8220;Now, there were blank spaces on this sheet. The proofs occupied places arranged in four rows of four columns each, only thirteen of the sixteen places being filled. This meant that month after month three of the sixteen places would stare empty at Clayton&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course my information comes second-hand, while yours is first hand, and I suspect that your next parts will go into your own editorial career which I am more interested in learning about than I am Bates&#8217; or Campbell&#8217;s (we&#8217;ve heard plenty about both over the years).  The man responsible for bringing us Cordwainer Smith deserves at least a little mention, right?</p>
<p>Besides, I own every single one of the first issues of the magazines you edited which number far more than a single title&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Hauger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott Hauger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 05:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for these invaluable histories!
Scott</description>
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Scott</p>
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		<title>By: E. J. Garcia</title>
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		<dc:creator>E. J. Garcia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good read, Fred!  The little I have already known about Astounding was with the days of John Campbell (&lt;a href="http://www.analogsf.com/information/what_is_asf.shtml" rel="nofollow"&gt;the official site&lt;/a&gt; quite literally skipped the entire prehistory!), of course as you've shown, there is certainly a lot more to the magazine than that.  I wish I could add more to the subject, though I would like to say that I have just recently finished reading your fabulous "Gateway" novel, now a personal favorite of mine.  &lt;i&gt;Cheers!&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good read, Fred!  The little I have already known about Astounding was with the days of John Campbell (<a href="http://www.analogsf.com/information/what_is_asf.shtml" rel="nofollow">the official site</a> quite literally skipped the entire prehistory!), of course as you&#8217;ve shown, there is certainly a lot more to the magazine than that.  I wish I could add more to the subject, though I would like to say that I have just recently finished reading your fabulous &#8220;Gateway&#8221; novel, now a personal favorite of mine.  <i>Cheers!</i></p>
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